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Joko Widodo: I was given a 100 percent mandate

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19 October 2018 20:29 WIB

Joko Widodo, Governor of Jakarta and President Candidate from PDI-P(4/16). TEMPO/Imam Sukamto

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Joko Widodo hastened to visit a few political parties when his own Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) won the recent legislative elections. As the party's presidential nominee, the Jakarta governor must move fast to find the right coalition partners, because his party might not meet the minimum requirement to field a president. At his home last week, he explained the conditions of his party's coalition to Tempo reporters Widiarsi Agustina, Anton Septian and Ananda Teresia.

What have you offered to other parties to join in a coalition?

We just discussed the need for cooperation. We are open to all parties who want to work with us, with the condition that they share the same platform with us and take the same future steps with us. Otherwise, it would be difficult to work together. We must be open: cooperation yes, sharing [ministerial] posts, no.

How did you explain that?

By saying that we should join up to formulate future steps for the people and the nation, not for anything else. Is that a deal? That's the first step. This is an ideological thing about going forward, where we want to take people.

So what kind of power sharing would there be if no ministerial posts would be given out?

The parties we will ask to join us cannot propose this or that. So, there's a criteria, whichever party wants to join us, they're welcome. Who will sit in the cabinet, we will discuss it together. They shouldn't be pushing names, or how many posts they can get. No way.

Did that ever come up in your meetings with other parties?

Not ministerial posts. We're still on [who would be] the vice-presidential candidate.

If the party doesn't get the vice-presidential nomination, wouldn't they be asking for ministerial posts?

We can see where they want to go. If it goes back to that issue, it's the same thing again.

With which party do you sense a chemistry to build an ideal coalition? 

So far only the NasDem party. They are 100 percent like us.

The PDI-P together with the NasDem would be enough to field a president.

If we must go alone with NasDem, why not? Because right from the start, we have told them, if we go together, if we both walk, let there be no burden (hidden grievances).

Other presidential hopefuls have approached the Islamic groups. What about you?

We are open to anyone. We welcome Islamic parties, the nationalists. Don't think that we close our doors to anyone. But if, for example, none are willing to join because some husband wants a ministerial position, well, what to do. We stress this again and again.

Why are you against a coalition of many parties?

The situation becomes rowdy, energy is wasted. They don't think of the people, of the nation and the state. That's why it's important to separate political from state affairs. Ibu Megawati has taken the right attitude, the courage not to nominate herself as the presidential candidate. Also Pak Surya Paloh. He has decided to work with the PDI-P, but he doesn't say, "I will be the VP candidate." That's what we must respect and take off our hats to.

You said you would not be a puppet president. 

People seem to have problems finding a bad track record on someone, so they dig up the dirt. The objective is to undermine people's faith in a person, to bring down his electability. That's typical of the kind of political games being played.

Read the full interview on this week's edition of Tempo English Magazine



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